Saturday, August 15, 2015

What Went Wrong With Asimov?

CAUTION: Spoilers from the true ending of Azure Striker Gunvolt ahead. Read at your own risk.


You really can't help but admire Asimov as a character. He's a real hero. He founds the organization Feather to fight the iron-fisted regime of Sumeragi; he saves GV from the clutches of Sumeragi and raises him as his own child; he acts as a father figure and leader to the members of Feather, offering helpful advice during missions; he narrowly saves Gino's neck on the battlefield at one point in the story (JP version); and at the end of the game, he declares war on the human race and attempts to kill both GV and Joule. He comes off as a truly honorable man who'd willingly take a hit for his team at a moment's noti-


...Wait, what? Declares war on the human race and attempts to kill both GV and Joule?! Now where the heck did that come from?!

Honestly, that was pretty much my exact reaction when I came to the end of the game. To this day, I still can't figure out what went wrong with Asimov, even after reading through all the cut text. Throughout the entirety of the story, almost nothing appears amiss about him, even if he does have his eccentric moments. On the contrary, his actions only lead you to believe that he's a real hero and honorable leader. Sure, at the beginning of the game, he persists that GV kill Joule even after learning she wasn't hostile, but he doesn't take any drastic measures against GV after he disobeys the order. GV simply just has to leave Feather. And further showing that he's a fair guy, Asimov gives orders to hold off the enemy reinforcements to allow GV to escape the Sumeragi facility. And further than that: he still allows GV to work for him, even if he's not an official member of Feather anymore.

Asimov's betrayal at the end of the game is overall just a really, really weird plot twist to me, as there's no notable event that leads up to it, not even a hint. To all appearances, it just looks like Asimov woke up on the wrong side of the bed one morning and decided to take his frustration out on the whole human race. I get how Inti Creates wanted this turn of events to be a surprise, but it ends up being a surprise that really makes no sense. Asimov never expresses a bitterness towards normal humans such as Monica and Joule. When you're writing a story, it's just good storytelling to narrate the circumstances that lead up to a character's betrayal, otherwise, the situation just turns out awkward. I get how Asimov may have felt overly resentful towards Sumeragi's treatment of Adepts and that may have led him to such drastic measures, but again, that's not mentioned before his betrayal. The end result is a bunch of people wondering when they get to this part in the game, "Wait, did I miss something somewhere?"

The thing is, I can't help but think this situation could have been easily remedied. There were a lot of conversations in the Japanese version of Gunvolt. Why couldn't Inti have dedicated one of those conversations to providing a "link" of some sort to make Asimov's betrayal seem more logical? It's hard to say, but who knows? Maybe we'll receive an explanation of some sort in Gunvolt 2

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  1. I'm pretty sure it KIND of hints at it in one of the Drama Tracks.

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    1. You're right, actually. Asimov does hint towards his true colors to Monica in the "Ninja Arts" Drama Track, and it's actually really enlightening to listen to. I still think it would have been a better call to put that in the game, though. I mean, the drama tracks are great and all, but I think the game storyline should really take priority when it comes to featuring that kind of a scene, especially since most people like to beat a game before exploring extra content in drama tracks.

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  2. I generally assume (and got this impression/idea from my first playthrough) that really, the man just snapped.

    More particularly, snapped from the addition of the discovery of the Glaives and their effects, and then Copen's hunting/ability to suckerpunch adepts (Asimov does target him, after all). Pile that onto all of Asimov's backstory and the discovery of Joule, and it was just a bridge too far.

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  3. I actually have this really brilliant theory on it that I've discussed with my some of my friends that have beaten Gunvolt but I'll refrain from saying too much as I don't want to possibly spoil the second game for anyone


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    Just keep in mind that there is a person out there who can create illusions and has done so before















    Specifically

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    1. So, you're saying it's possible that GV's encounter with Asimov was nothing but an illusion created by that character?! Holy moly, that'd certainly be a plot-twist!

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    2. That would be pretty amazing but I'm thinking more along the lines that someone was changing what was being heard by both parties to create confrontation
      I've got a whole crazy conspiracy about it

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  4. It's me again
    I'm sorry because I think that I may have misinterpreted your reply
    If I'm correct you reached the same conclusion as me but I thought you meant something different because I misread it
    Re reading your reply now makes me believe this as the previous case I was thinking you meant is most likely impossible

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  5. Sorry again as I forgot to include this as well
    I assumed that you meant that everything was an illusion but I believe now that you meant what my theory is
    That the talking part was an illusion as
    It would be almost impossible for the whole thing to be one
    Please let me know what you meant
    I have a huge theory and idea about this if you'd like to know about it
    I'd love to hear another fans take on it

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    1. Right, yeah, I was just referring to Asimov and GV's conversation, not the entire plot of Azure Striker Gunvolt.

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    2. Sorry I didn't make myself clear by everything I was referring to the entire GV and Asimov scene including the fight which would be impossible if all that was an illusion
      So what do you think of my theory

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    3. I guess it's possible, but would that illusion-making character really have been in the condition to do something like that? After all, Acura DID appear to beat him pretty badly.

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  6. Notice how you used the word "Appear"
    illusions are supposed to make things appear like how they really are not

    a lot of fans on forums have pointed at that there is a specific sword that has a different dissapear sequence than the others
    in mighty gunbolt there is a boss than can make it look like there are multiple of them which can attack and even be destroyed
    the boss can even hide in reflective surfaces
    Asimov's glasses seem to fit that description perfectly
    maybe Copen had something on him also

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    1. Well, we've seen that that character can make illusions of himself, but do we know for a fact that he can make illusions of other people?

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  7. Also there is a boss that is said to be as strong as Nova and GV
    I have a hard time believing that someone like Copen could take someone like that down
    especially by having only three weapons in canon
    not to mention Copen has only Canonly fought three adepts
    That boss
    GV on two occasions
    and Asimov
    every other time he just let GV beat the boss and took the spoils
    also for the sake of argument
    if that character was in bad condition than they had a lot of time to heal
    if they had been hurt at all
    and on the extremely off chance they died they could have been revived and just stayed hidden
    but I'd put my money on it being an illusion that the boss just faked death so they could stay hidden to cause mischief
    this also makes since if the boss new Asimov back in the day

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  8. I've never insinuated that he could make illusions of other people
    he never even had the need to

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    1. Well, Copen's profile states that he's a genius, and Asimov himself praised his skills. It's pretty evident that Copen's in a league of his own, so I don't think it's too surprising that he'd take down that other character, especially if he had a special gun (and bear in mind, that gun proved a serious problem for Asimov and almost killed GV). Also, if Copen didn't beat him, how was he able to obtain his special skill?

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  9. What if that character was with Copen the entire time
    not as in working together but hid with him to make look liike he had been defeated
    also cannonly he would not have had those bullets as the first three bosses are
    merak
    jota
    and viper

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    1. That's kind of a weak argument, though, as the player can choose any of the initial six bosses to fight first, including Carrera.

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  10. True but it's mostly agreed among fans that the order is left column then right column
    but this is pure conjecture so I agree with you that he could have had them

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  11. I personally go left to right
    and then top to bottom as it makes the fight more interesting
    but remember that GV gave Asimov info on Copen like the abilities he had
    and Copen himself states that Asimov doesn't have data on this which only makes sense if he didn't have it in the initial fight
    what do you think

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    1. Yeah, that could be true. But it's also possible that Copen was just testing GV at the time and opted not to use his trump card against him.

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    2. In my opinion Copen is the kind of guy that always goes for the kill

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  12. Also Copen has stalked GV for most of the game so he already had a good idea of what he was capable of

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  13. Also sorry to say this but your argument is kind of weak as in the game if he has it he'll use it

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    1. Remember Copen's supreme goal, though: to wipe out all the adepts. And it's important to keep in mind that Gunvolt was actually -helping- Copen. When Gunvolt defeated a Sumeragi boss, Copen stepped in and absorbed its ability. Gunvolt was basically doing Copen's work for him. I can totally see how he wouldn't have wanted to kill GV on the spot during their first encounter, as he was still useful to him. There were still more Sumeragi adepts that he wanted defeated, and it'd be way easier to have GV take care of them for him.

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    2. Then why didn't Copen let GV fight Nova at the end of the game?
      he will try to kill any adept that stands before him

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    3. I really can't wait for Xonda's profile
      if they give him one
      also if they did a side Story of Copen fighting him that would bring a lot of things to light

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    4. Yeah, definitely would. Pretty interested to read Zonda's profile myself, as we know so little about him and his alter-ego.

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    5. Yeah but since he's supposed to be shrouded in mystery I don't think there gonna give him as detailed a one as the others
      odd that my other reply didn't show up
      it was
      then why didn't Copen let GV kill Nova for him
      Copen wil try to kill any adept that is in front of him

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    6. Also if I was a betting man I'd say than Copen's sister is an adept who has been hiding her powers from him
      will probably be in the next game as GV's new love interest/rival for Joule
      wil probably have powers that compliment GV's
      maybe control over metal specifically silver

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    7. Maybe he was just so angry for revenge against Gunvolt that he wasn't thinking rationally. His profile does state that he has a tendency to go wild when fighting adepts, and that's often why he meets with failure.

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    8. Good point but such a attitude would have gotten the better of him if he fought for example
      I don't know
      someone who can create illusions

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    9. That would have also gotten the better of him when he started losing against GV in the first fight which would have caused him to whip it out

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    10. I really don't think that Asimov can be the bad guy because he seemed to act out of character at the end
      also if that was his true ambition all along then he would have raised GV to be like that from the start
      hating and resenting humans
      but he did not evident from GV's line
      maybe you should have been more open about it then

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    11. Also Asimov's last words were touching in my opinion
      I don't know if it was real or an illusion but they were amazing
      I don't hate you gunvolt
      I just wish that I'd done better by you
      you can't stop adepts from rising up
      Wether you fight for adrpts or against them
      with a power like that you have to fight for something
      the future is in your hands


      I might have made a few mistakes but that doesn't sound like the ramblings on an evil person
      With a power like that you

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    12. Why didn't Copen let GV kill Zonda then
      maybe he wanted to reveal himself and test GV but GV should have been more careful after he beat the rest of the bosses
      also if Copen had an opening to kill GV he would take it
      your idea is certainly possible but would make more sense if Copen was a boss that you didn't need to beat but you do and he'll kill you in the game

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  14. That would be an amazing easter egg if he doesn't use it during the fight even if he has it

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  15. Also the plan was stupid because just because a person has both their parents as adepts doesn't mean that they are going to be an adept
    also unless Asimov is the first striker like I hypothesized
    he is a human
    he was an artificially created adept
    sure he can hate his creators but not all of humanity
    so that doesn't make much sense
    he must've tried to kill GV because he was under an illusion where GV was evil

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    1. Well hey, who can say for sure? Guess we just have to play the sequel to know for certain.

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    2. Couldn't agree more
      any idea when we'll get more info on it

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    3. Well, GDC's coming up in March and that's where a lot of developers like to announce news on their games. Maybe Inti will share more info then.

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    4. I'm intrigued to know what you think of Asimov
      Do you think that he's the cliche villain
      Or have I provided enough conjecture to give reasonable doubt
      Or do you think that it's still too soon to decide
      I believe that since this is the guy who was GV's savior, teacher and father both U.S. and GV need to give him more credit
      I mean he showed up to a karaoke party and sung with Moniqa
      He had absolutely no reason to show up except to spend time with his team or make it look like he was good but no one was gonna question him if he was busy
      So what do you think

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    5. I personally think that he was just a character subject to bad writing. I think Inti Creates intended for him to be the true villain, but they did a bad job explaining the events that led to his betrayal. That said, we do see his true colors a bit in the "Ninja Arts" drama track, where he says to Monica (talking about the other human members in Feather): "Do they fear us? Do they become our enemies? Several of the supporting non-Psychics... expect something in return...However... I feel something...a bit different from you..."
      And Monica in turn replies: "I think there's a lot about you...your lifestyle... that isn't understood. No... not even I can...understand...your deepest spots."

      So yeah, if you were asking me, I would say (based on the drama track) that Asimov indeed was bad news. Maybe not exactly the most "evil" character, but his sense of justice was definitely messed up.

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    6. I personally expect more from Inti than that considering their pedigree and their current works
      I heard that drama track as well
      which indeed hints at something but what that something is I can't say for sure
      I mean there he was having a somewhat normal conversation with Moniqa who is a non psychic
      I think that it's possible it was referencing to how like GV
      Asimov has had a tough and difficult life but no one was there to save him
      this would make even more sense if he was the first striker
      but that's just conjecture once again

      if I were to take the story at face value I would agree that he is evil but a weird and confusing evil

      I just believe in my theory because I don't think the character of Asimov makes sense otherwise and I expect more from Inti

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    7. Also does anyone else think that the fact that the first azute striker being found in south America is not only a reference to mew but Blanka also

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    8. Do you think that we'll be fighting Quill in the next game also as GV would probably belive that Quill is evil now

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    9. What do you think happened to Zonda?

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    10. I personally think that my theory has small merit to it and is possible
      I also want to believe that the story and characters are better writen than that
      because if I am right then it would add a whole new level of depth to the story and chatacters
      just imagine it
      what's your opinion on my ideas plausibility and what do you think about it

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  16. Sorry if I spoiled the next game for you
    but I hope it's so awesome that I'm wrong become I couldn't think of something like it
    do you know if we'll get bios on Gino and Moniqa

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  17. Really sorry if I spoiled anything from the sequel for you.

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  18. Me again here





    Spoilers and possible spoilers ahead










    Just replayed Gunvolt for the eleventh time but this time I noticed something weird
    Something foreshadowy
    When you get the bad ending or rather the first ending you have a conversation with Joule and Lumen
    The first time around I never thought much of it but now I realize a few things

    First of all Joule says a little into it
    But whether you walked into a dream
    Followed by Lumen who says
    Or out of some phantasmagoria

    Nothing wrong with that right?
    I mean seems like a simple explanation for how GV sees them both alive but remembers them all dying
    The only thing that seems off is the word phantasmagoria
    Odd right
    You'd think that the word nightmare would have sufficed
    It almost seems like they went out of their way to include it
    But that's really no big deal

    But then the word seems familiar
    I mean everyone's heard it at least three times , right?

    But this time it reminds you of something in Gunvolt
    It reminds you of Copen's bio where it is stated that Zonda's ultimate move is phantasmagoria
    Probably just a coincidence, right.?
    I think not
    They went so far out of their way to include that specific word as they ignored all the other simple synonyms

    Could this be hinting us that GV's conversation with Asimov was in fact some sort of illusion or phantasmagoria if you would
    This theory is further perpetuated by another line spoken

    Lumen says
    Seriously bro we've all got one foot in fantasy and one in reality

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  19. Taking what I've said above and before into consideration this seems to be the game telling us that all is not what it "appears" to be
    It serms to be hinting that half of what happened with Asimov was real and half was fake
    the speaking part is perhaps what was fake

    Looking over this it seems that the game has some hints that seem to substantiate my claims

    Just thought I'd share this new finding of mine
    What do you think now?
    You could probably write a speculation page about it

    Also when are Elise's and Careera's bios coming out

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    1. Sorry dude but I think you're reading way too much into this

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    2. Your theory could use some polishing here and there but it sounds amazing. I hope that this is what they have in store for us. It would make an awesome story with some real depth and drama.

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  20. Someone make a fan fic about this theory already.
    it seems awesome imo.

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    1. My friend who helped me come up with the theory is actually working on one but he said that he isn't going to upload anything till Gunvolt 2 comes out and he beats it.
      which will be soon.

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  21. Can someone please tell me what Asimov's real name Takefutsu is supposed to mean.

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